Ahem.

> Bad Star Trek porn, as if there were any other
> kind.

If you call slash porn (and I do -- at least the porny slash [g]) then I have to argue that there is some pretty damn good Star Trek porn out there (along with mind-boggling amounts of horrible Star Trek porn -- Sturgeon's Law is never truer than when referring to porn).

So, I'm a geek, and proud. And one of the signs of geekness (to me, at least), is that years later, I can still be arguing with my geek friends about whether the time travel worked/made sense in some B SF movie, that we all loved, and have seen multiple times.

It's normal for me to love something, and wish it was better/different at the same time. I can love the game play, and still wish there was some way for it to be fun and crude and rude and stupid... without reinforcing, at some level, some shitty things about our society.

Geek women here/feminists here aren't saying, "I want to *take away your/my toys*" -- just that we wish sometimes that we had better toys. And duh, we want to talk about the problems with these toys, and the possibility of getting better toys *here* because this is where we play.

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His life could be much worse; he could have been that boy or girl

What makes you think he wasn't? Research into both physical abuse and sexual abuse seems to show abuse seems to perpetuate itself over generations. Does that give you any more empathy for abusers?

(FWIW: The word ephebophile seems to be both needed and missing from this conversation. A teacher sleeping with their teenaged students is wrong, regardless of gender, because of the power issues involved -- but they're unlikely to be pedophiles unless they're sleeping with their *elementary* students.)

Was it a small but adorable Canadian movie?