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Mike Friedman
How a non-Neutral ISP could work
September 23, 2007 2:06am
How a non-Neutral ISP could work
September 22, 2007 12:39pm
I'm finding some of the reactions here very interesting.
For example, see Flying Squid, #27:
Or... skype could just invest in better servers themselves.
Mr. Calamari, how do you expect better Skype servers to solve network congestion and similar problems?
JohnB, #29, isn't quite as silly, but he demonstrates the "Let them eat cake" attitude that many of the neutrality absolutarians have:
Mike Friedman - Leased line. If you can get Skype to agree to receiving one.
So, in other words, because you are worried about a tiered Internet Skype can't do deals for guaranteed QOS with various ISPs and I can't buy a premium Skype connectivity service? You expect every single person who wants a premium service like this to get his own leased line? Is this really reasonable?
Finally, for pure comic relief, let's see LJSeinfeld, #17. Actually, he's so over the top I'm not sure if he isn't being sarcastic... but others seem to be taking him seriously and agreeing with him...
These companies/conglomerates/what-have-you need to be reminded is that the public internet, the RF spectrum, and other such things *belong to the public*.
I don't know what "other things" he's talking about so I won't comment on that. Modern RF spectrum is auctioned to the highest bidder and given the amounts paid it's hard to argue that they aren't buying a property right. As for the "public internet", no, it doesn't belong to the public! It's a bunch of fiber lines and switches and every single one of those is owned by a company, a government, or a private individual. None of it is owned by the "public".
I am growing increasingly more tired of businesses trying to call every little added ability to a given service a "value add" and expecting to charge more for it.
I don't follow - you expect businesses to offer additional services at additional cost and not charge for them?
What ever happened to over-delivering on a product or service.
Probably the same thing that happened to the tooth fairy... NOTHING! Because neither of them ever existed!
Money-grubbing swine.
Ummmm... yes... that's their job!
How a non-Neutral ISP could work
September 22, 2007 9:02am
No... I'm not talking about just higher bandwidth.
I'm talking about a guaranteed service quality for a connection to a particular service provider (Skype).
That's the kind of value added service that net neutrality would prohibit.
How a non-Neutral ISP could work
September 22, 2007 8:11am
You know, this is not a totally one sided issue.
For example I make heavy use of Skype Out but quality is patchy and I often have to fall back to regular phone lines.
Why shouldn't I be able to pay my ISP a little extra in return for a guaranteed high bandwidth connection to Skype's nearest Skype Out gateway?
Not unreasonable, right?
But certainly not neutral either.
Now, there are obvious concerns that an ISP making extra money this way might take steps to downgrade everyone else's Skype connection in order to make more money. I think in most cases competition would prevent that. In those where it wouldn't regulation may be the answer. But does that mean we have to ban value added services like this?
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Noen, #33 says:
Frankly, if the primary argument for net neutrality is based on the concept that private property is illegitimate I don't think it's going to get much traction.