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Bush administration wants Europeans' family details, the right to put armed officials on European planes, and a pre-approval for European visitors

February 20, 2008 1:20am

@madjo

That's exactly what the EU is planning to do, with digital facial and fingerprint image capture on entry into the EU and monitoring on departure for all non-EU citizens.

[quote]The US already receives lists of people that are on board the flights to the US, what more could they want[/quote].

This in ineffective for 2 reasons:

1. It's too late to prevent a potential undesirable from boarding and results in diversion of the aircraft to a remote airport with inconvenience and costs for airline and passengers alike.

2. You're only comparing names and limited data with a database that has been proven to be dodgy, regularly flagging 4 year-olds (and Ted Kennedy) as potential terrorists.

With pre-clearance, you're effectively moving the initial immigration process into a non-critical timeframe.

I'd have no problems with it if it gets me out of the airport quickly on arrival

Bush administration wants Europeans' family details, the right to put armed officials on European planes, and a pre-approval for European visitors

February 20, 2008 12:21am

This is 2 parts arrogance/insanity (armed US air marshals, PNR+ data for overflights) and 1 part common sense (online pre-approval).

If the latter's done sensibly (a word which, of course, is frequently oxymoronic when linked with US government policy), it would expedite processing on arrival and flag any potentially undesirables in a timely manner.

They could probably even adopt the Australian government's on-line visa application algorithms - middle-aged airline executives on vacation tend to pose minimal threat levels to the well-being of a country's citizens, something the Aussies have determined in my case every time.

As does US Immigration at Logan airport when I turn up on their doorstep unannounced.....

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