Which came first, the chicken or the egg...?

@#17

So what would you do if you were born into a town where people fired rockets at you just because you live on the other side of the tracks?

The disagreement is a hundred years old; I guess then Jordan doesn't have a right to exist either, it also being part of the same mandate, and a former property of the Ottoman empire. The current Territories were offered to the Arabs living there, and the Arab League, 99% of whom I'm sure were not 'native' to Palestine (which, by the way always had a substantial Jewish population who lived in Jerusalem because they were not, as usual, allowed to own land) said no, and the rest of the world moved on, and several wars later, the Palestinians are still being used as a tool by Arab supremacists to rule the entire land. #20 is right on the money; Lebanon keeps Palestinians in camps and doesn't let them work, Syria kicked them out, Kuwait shipped them out too when Hussein and Arafat hooked up; the Palestinian's 'fellow people' sold them out and crammed them into the Territories to exacerbate the problem and make Israel look like problem.

Yo, I DID my homework. And btw Takuan, just because big media sometimes lies, doesn't mean that everyone else is telling the truth.

When Israelis take aim, it's at 'militants' because the Palestinian Authority doesn't have an actual military, so it's always going to be 'civilian casualties.' The IDF targets sites and people that are going to be doing things like firing rockets into an elementary school. When a house gets bulldozed, it's because it would be a good launch site into Israel. Bulldozing it, and preventing more structures being built in the same place saves lives; lives on both sides. The Israelis don't suicide bomb buses and malls, or hijack airplanes and blow them up. Terrorists do that; maybe taking aim to murder little kids (who are completely innocent, no matter how you want to look at this issue)isn't enough to see how wicked these people are; do they need to kill puppies or something too?

Obviously, not many of you live where the Lakota is claiming to be their territory. I mean, it sucks what happened to them a while ago, but you can't say that non-Lakota peoples don't have the same right to be a 'native' on the same land if they were born there too.

Someone mentioned Israel earlier, and that's like the same situation a hundred years in the future; most people are content to say things like 'Israel and Israelis are unjustly occupying Palestine,' but most Israelis were born and raised there too. Why should group b leave group b's home, or give it up when at this point they've lived there just as long as group a?

In all seriousness, the people living here before Europeans showed up were shat upon, but let's face it: you can't say "Go team Lakota" and tell everyone living in five states to just pack up and move, or submit to the will of a new government.