I also recommend my friend's "Tha Killa Beez Experience" for any Wu-Tang fans. Give his Hey Joe mix a listen, it's definitely one of my faves.

http://coldhands.info/killabeezexperience/kbe.php

Pikachu, I choose you!... for pestilence...

"FUTURPUNK ... knows nothing about spiritual teaching,"

These are the kind of statements that make you come off as absolutely nuts, MOONBAT. You know roughly zero about my spirituality. I think everyone might take you a little more seriously if you had more a sense of respect for the others in this debate.

Honestly, the best argument I've seen against objectivism is the way you've conducted yourself on here MOONBAT.

"When you assert that others owe you something--that the competent must support the incompetent--what are you doing? You're projecting "your" needs (the needs of your ego) into the outside world and trying to control that which you do not control and which you have no right to control. Properly understood, that goes against every spiritual teaching."

I just thought I'd point out how completely ass-backwards this is.

"Every spiritual teaching" (this a totally flim-flam category, so whatever...)

"some spiritual teachings" (Christianity, Islam) are very clear about the wealthy giving to the poor. The whole argument there, that YOU are the one doing the demanding, represents the awkwardness of objectivism so well. It's about YOU giving freely to others, not demanding to be given to--and the idea that giving to the needy is somehow reprehensible is certainly not espoused by at least those two major religions.

All of this business about the ego is bizarre as well. Selfishness is the territory of the ego; the idea that it must uphold itself in some sort of battle for survival with others at all times. And that is the core of objectivism.

The idea that objectivism is somehow the heart of rationality ("man is inherently an individual") strikes me as even more insane. Rationality gave rise to democracy, to monarchy, to socialism and communism, all "collectivist" ideas to some degree.

The closest we had to a true objectivist era for mankind was when human beings were fighting for survival in the ice ages. I see nothing utopian about that existence.

This sounds so amazingly cool. I wish I had known about this when I was younger. What about if you're twenty-two years old? :(