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Starving people in Haiti eating mud
April 18, 2008 11:28pm
Zinnia, you and Rabican are awesome. I love you both.
Starving people in Haiti eating mud
April 18, 2008 10:05pm
Hi there again Antinous.
I’m also 100% in favor of birth control here my friend. It seems to me that we only disagree about the methods to achieve that in a developing country. I mean no offense man but you seem to think that the only thing that should be done, if even that at all, is to throw some condoms from an airplane and lets be done with that. I in the other hand believe that the solution for the problem of birth control in developing countries is solved through public health policies that grant universal access to contraception methods and education.
I’m also 100% in favor of self-determination, people should be able to make their on choices and deal with the consequences. The thing that I’m pointing is that starving people in developing countries DOT’N have a choice. Not in the same way that you and I have. And that it is not right, as Rabican have pointed, to blame them for their misery. Especially if they live in places like a haitian or brazilian favela.
That’s it my friend. And Rabican putted in a perfect and more polite way the point that I was trying to make since the beginning.
PS – By the way, I should have said that since the beginning but sorry for any errors in my English. It’s not my first language.
Starving people in Haiti eating mud
April 18, 2008 8:53pm
Dear Antinous.
I don’t know were you live but I assume it is in some place north of myself. I do not work directly in public health, but my graduation is in psychology and I read some texts dealing with human sexuality and public health in Brazil, published in scientific journals, related to policies of STD prevention implemented by the government here. Man you would be amazed to discover how that people living in poor conditions and having no access to information or education have no idea whatsoever about birth control strategies. Even if you are from some developed country I’m sure that you have had some friend in your live that got an unwanted pregnancy. Imagine how hard is to have the means to prevent an unwanted pregnancy when you have to live in a place like favela da maré, a shantytown here in Rio de Janeiro. My friend you have no idea what are the conditions of life there. I will not pretend that I have the answer for the problem that Haitians (or the population of other developing countries) are facing regarding birth control. But I do know that what is making a difference here in my country and that is granting the population access to information and increasing the range of the public health policy regarding STD and family planning.
Dear Rabican.
Thank you very much for expressing in a more articulated way what I was trying to say since the beginning.
Starving people in Haiti eating mud
April 18, 2008 7:19pm
And again we return to my point. If you want the people in Haiti to start to use condoms you need at least to make them available to the population. Again, if they don’t have money to by food, don’t expect them to use the scarce money that they have to buy condoms. Again they need state policy in birth control. India has sterilization programs and China offers abortion free of charge to every woman that wants to.
Starving people in Haiti eating mud
April 18, 2008 6:17pm
Dear Antinous.
Allow me just to quote you here: “Give them some better options and they'll probably take them”
That has been my hole point since the beginning.
Starving people in Haiti eating mud
April 18, 2008 5:52pm
Dear Antinous.
As I said I’m a brazilian and we have the same sort of situation here in the poorer areas of the country, so if my comment was racist I would have been racist against myself. I do think people can make better choices than raising the number of members in a family to 20. This happens when people HAVE a choice. What I pointed was that expecting someone who has less than $ 2 a day to sustain themselves to spend this money in contraceptives is ridiculous. And it really is.
Here in Brazil the number of child per couple is steadily decreasing over the last decades, this happened because the population started to have access to education, public health and family planning policies. What Haitians need, as anyone else, is economic development and state policies that grant them access to education and public health policies that offer them a choice other than misery and starvation. So then you can actually have a choice in the number of members in your family.
I totally agree with you that a family of 20 members is not sustainable, but people living in these conditions are not guilty ones. They are the victims here.
Starving people in Haiti eating mud
April 18, 2008 3:37pm
I apologize beforehand if my comment seem a little rude but I’m sick of reading comments made from americans (or any citizen of another rich country by the way) trying to make jokes about other peoples suffering so they can seen witty on the internet.
So, to all the people criticizing the lady with 18 children. I live in Brazil and we are no strangers to famine and starvation here. Also it’s not uncommon to find families living in the rural areas and shantytowns of Brazil with a large offspring. This usually happens because the family uses the work force of their sons and daughters to work in the family land or helping in other activities that can bring more income to the family. But this is not the point here. What I find truly fucking ridiculous is for someone to assume that people living in some of the poorer areas of the world, living with less than $ 2 a day as pointed in the article, will use this money to by condom or contraceptives.
Or perhaps you think that poor people can’t fuck. Since they can’t have proper houses, can’t have a drink, can’t have good clothes, can’t even have a decent meal, sure thing they can’t fuck either.
Give me a fucking break.
Air Force Uber Alles
March 12, 2008 2:10pm
Well, very appropriate since the USA is walking steady to become a fascist state, as Germany was in the beginning of the 20th century when the anthem was introduced.
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