Timefishblue,

Will you make me a human skull bong? I need one. thx.

Two words...

HOLY SHIT!

Meanwhile, in udder "teen" news:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/sciencebiotechflucanada

Canadian teen makes sticky molecule in bid to diagnose, prevent flu

OTTAWA (AFP) - A Canadian high school student has won a national science competition for her new molecule that binds to flu viruses, which may eventually be used to diagnose or prevent flu infections.

Maria Merziotis, 17, took first prize in the 2008 Sanofi-Aventis BioTalent Challenge, and will now go on to compete at the international BioGENEius Challenge in San Diego June 16-18.

Meanwhile, Health Canada is testing her research, and as a diagnostic tool it has already shown "encouraging results," said the government agency in a statement. ...

#82 posted by ill007

When a shaky economy or poor company performance got the better of the highest execs, I've seen more top rate 'pure' designers get cut, outsourced, or deemed redundant than mediocre to midrange coders...

Are you talking about basic graphic designers or designers of entire websites? GUI, structure, content, etc., etc.? If you are talking about the designers we are talking about in this thread then...

You forgot to finish your sentence...

"...and they eventually just went down the shitter at an even faster rate and went out of business... or got lucky and perhaps were bought out for pennies on the dollar and then got "restructured" (a.k.a. someone brought better design talent back in so they could start making profits again)."

Having "pure" coders handle all the design has proven to be corporate suicide. Even most talented, pro coders will tell you that.

Sure, in the extreme short term you may save a buck or two but soon the chickens will come home to roost and it'll end up being a financial disaster overall.

#83 posted by Regis , May 1, 2008 (up at 4:43 AM trying to fix his hand code)

"to dismiss DW offhand (nowadays) is silly...back when it did produce some really crappy code. DW8.x started to fix a lot of those issues and DW9.x is getting even better."

Wow, it's only 10% crappy code now? Sign me up!

Please bear with me, while I make some more "retarded" points here.

Oh noes... 10% of everything that comes out of people's utilization of Dreamweaver is crappy code.. no matter how they utilize Dreamweaver!!! LOL!!!!! You don't get it, do you?

First of all, Dreamweaver does not add custom markup, styles, or alter your code in any way, unless you explicitly tell it to (’Apply Source Formatting’ command), etc. and, when you use it in a way that it does create code, you can control it in various ways. Plus, how does a professional define "crappy code"? Bloated, unreadable or non-cross browser code, right?

You are obviously coming at this from an uneducated angle. In other words, you probably dabbled with Dreamweaver back when it was developed by Macromedia some years ago and/or before DW8.x-9.x and haven't kept up with it in recent years.

Dreamweaver is great at tackling cross browser issues unlike many strict (purist.. LOL) hand coders out there (in a much faster fashion as well) and IF you utilize Dreamweaver PROPERLY you won't need to deal with bloat either. And, it's already been mentioned it's great for collaboration (on many levels) if you know how to utilize it properly.

When I said DW9.x is getting even better... Yep. You got me... It DOES still need hand coding for certain relatively esoteric (and some not so esoteric) tasks. But, Hahaha... you can take care of it much of it with extremely time-saving Extensions... custom made or otherwise (which ... *cough* happen to often destroy the time it takes to hand code the shit repeatedly).

No, Dreamweaver doesn't code your Java for you, but it doesn't screw it up either when you inject it in there (and it gladly assists you when you inject it with various time saving procedures, tools, etc. (I could train you in this, but I'm sorry... I'd have to charge you consultation fees first if you're not willing to learn these facts on your own).

Oh, and let's not forgot the massive time you can save with custom history panel commands, because I'm sure you've used that extensively as well and found it of absolutely no use compared to strictly hand coding shit, correct? LOL And I'm sure using gestures is out of the question for you as well... I mean, we would not want to save time and avoid carpal tunnel syndrome while we are it, would we? Hahaha... no expense there for employees with a crippling syndrome, right?

Also, I'm sure where you work your entity never has had to deal with situations where making development easier for people in training, temps, etc. could perhaps help general productivity and, in effect, help the company's bottom line, right? Or, I guess, in LaLa land, all new hires are the model employees you dream of with all the proper knowledge and the company can always afford at any time to bring in this kind of talent whenever various projects pop up spontaneously.... riiiight???? LOL Some tools that assist with development in this case just doesn't happen, no matter how much reality dictates it. Hahaha...

Seriously people, WYSIWYG tools - even if one did exist that made good code - are SLOWER than hand coding in the long run. This is because an experienced coder creates self-documenting code designed for easy maintenance. From the names of variables/classes/id's to a flexible structure that can easily be modified to fit potential design changes, hand coding is superior for all but the simplest projects.

You're wrong.

You don't think out of your narrow little box very often, do you? What rule is there out there that says you can't perform hybrid work using the WYSIWYG tools ALONG with hand coding for maximum speed, efficiency and control?

I hate to break it to you, but as many have been trying to say throughout this thread... using Dreamweaver alongside hand coding IS FASTER in the short AND long run because of the many tools Dreamweaver offers (and customizations, mind you).

Unheard of, you say!!? LOL I've seen smarter fortune 500 companies do it... LOL... But, I'm sure you'd come in and rock their worlds with your hand coding purist attitude and in one fell swoop increase the bottom line of the company, eh? LOL I should also note that just about all of those companies use Dreamweaver in different ways, some more efficiently than udders and also utilizing different applications of it. But, you and your grandma know that already, right?

And even for those, I would only recommend WYSIWYG for people who will not be doing this for a living, like my grandma.

Well, you and your grandma should talk with some of these Fortune 500 companies and many pro developers out there that use Dreamweaver. They don't know that what they are doing isn't making them a living!

Ever tried to make manual modifications to something generated by a WYSIWYG? Try it someday, you will wish you were never born.

Then you should have used the WYSIWYG tool, LOL. But seriously, ever tried to make manual modifications to crappy hand code? Absolute nightmare. Once again, just like any udder tool out there, Dreamweaver can be used properly and improperly. But to throw out the baby with the bathwather is sheer idiocy.

Obviously Mac vs PC is a retarded point to bring into this discussion.

So, how do you test to make sure your code renders fine in Safari, retard?

Or, do you blow off millions of users of your client's website? Or, do you purchase a separate machine just for testing and waste money and time... you know, once you struggle getting all the spyware, adware and shit off your PC to fit in some time to test code on your Mac? LOL

Look, I'm not going to do the typical inane argument with you on WHY there aren't viruses, etc. propagating for shit on OS X because I'm sure you'll throw in the soundly disproven market-share scenario where (hahaha) the only reason you don't find this crap on Mac is because of "security through obscurity" which all us security experts knows works so well, riiight? LOL Nothing to do with its roots in open source UNIX, riiiight? Nevermind that when Apple had far less marketshare and attention, there were over 40 viruses happily propagating in the wild for OS 9 and now with far more marketshare, etc. OS X is relatively virus free in terms of propagation, etc.? So we'll just skip that.... LOL

Let's skip all that, and look at the current reality.

A PC is nearly twice as expensive as a Mac when one takes support costs into account of antivirus protection, firewalls, and IT labor to keep a PC secure. This is not including the higher hardware maintenance, training issues and so on and so on... Oh yeah, and resale value of Macs is much higher too, so when it's time to upgrade you get the added bonus of collecting more money from your old Macs to go towards the new ones. Study after independent study shows that using Macs save companies money. Uh, and you do know that Macs run Vista faster than any Windows only computer, right? And at rare times when you have to run Windows specific apps on the Mac it's a trivial process, right?

Don't take my word on it, some of this info is from a little PC magazine called NetworkWorld (you may have heard of it?) ... But, that's a "retarded" point for developers, right?

But, go ahead and stay curled up in your little ball in your little box.

#23 posted by Nores , May 6, 2008 8:46 PM

I see what you did there. You're a clever boy aren't you? Yes you are. A clever, clever little boy. Oh yes you is, oh yes you is. Who's a clever boy? Who's a clever boy? Yes, it's you! Yes you are!

Nores, lay off the alcohol for a while, m'kay, sweetie?

uh, if this doesn't have radio controlled steering then why would any hamster want this?

Kick ass trailer. Very different from hollywood trailers everyone is used to (and brainwashed into thinking should be some kind of standard format you have to follow). Kudos for breaking the mold. (I'm sure the pigeon shit ending and the music confused the hell out of the sheep, LOL.)

#23 posted by mikelotus , May 6, 2008 1:34 PM

i thought this thing only took pictures if you were speeding? at least that is how it works in washington, dc. why is every care having picture taken and what are they using to store all that data and how long do they hold onto the data

Welp that's what you get and what you deserve when you record cars that aren't breaking the speed limit, running a red light, etc. ...an ass in your face. With that kind of Orwellian surveillance they are lucky they simply aren't shooting the Goddamn thing out instead.

They start doing that shit in the states and I, for one, will systematically start destroying those cameras as will many others.

Once again, WHY the fuck were they recording a car that wasn't breaking any traffic laws?

I hope the mooner countersues the police state.

This stuff is GREAT. Thanks Parker, Cory, Boing Boing...etc

!!!!

Is there a version for Mac? Wait, LOL... I'm on a Mac, I don't fuck with games. Welp, back to work. LOL

#42 posted by Teresa Nielsen Hayden

Cowicide, you read the Drudge Report? Eeeeeeuw.

I keep my friends close, but my enemies closer.

#2 posted by paul567

I'd like to know how these 'aliens' are created.

Hmmm.... the Drudge report says it's 50 feet while Boing Boing says the baby is dropped only 49.2125985 feet. Are you trying to make the terrorists look better, Boing Boing?

I blame Clinton.

@ #1 posted by Machinehead

XD

#11 posted by Jeff , May 1, 2008 9:59 AM

What is an example of some picture that would warrant this kind of security measure?

Of many examples... how about for posting photos of authority figures doing illegal/unethical acts that you want to expose? The authority figures would just love to be able to find out who you are, huh?

I'm surprised in this day and age there are so many within this thread wondering why anyone would want to be anonymous. In the meantime, I sure don't see a whole lot of your first and last names being used here for screenames here.

What have you got to hide? Is everyone here a... terrorist?

LOL, gawd... America, home of the bra... chicken.

#1 posted by Tecumseh:

Who is actually this paranoid?

Uh, people that this means life or death for (you have heard of oppressive modern regimes that kill dissenters, correct?)... or people in the U.S. that are involved in patriotic actions of dissent that don't want their organizations and/or life ruined because their right to privacy is trampled on (and taken advantage of).

Uh, you do know about things like this, right? (tip of the iceberg)
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/30/don-siegelman-speaks-with-thom-hartmann/
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/4/14/black_ops_on_green_groups_private
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=%22activist+killed%22&btnG=Search

Go back to sleep, Tecumse.

One good way to see the thermal noise of your camera (and you can also use this as part of a process to remove it via photoshop) is take a picture with the lens cap on.

I can't remember exactly how I used to do it, but I know I would set up a night shot on a tripod, then take a shot with the cap on, then without moving the camera at all, I'd take another shot of the scene. Then later in photoshop I would layer the two pictures and remove the thermal noise with a process I can't remember now.

I'm sure the info is still out there on google somewhere:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=removing+thermal+noise+camera+lens+cap&btnG=Google+Search

Psychic thread...

For one of you, right now as you read this thread a song from The Police is playing.

Fortune Cookie thread....

You will meet someone very special in two days who will change your wife.

Well, I was supposed to 488 not 489 so now my math is off, thx a lot Tenn!!!

New! Improved Thread!!

Now only 178 comments away from #666 !!

#81 posted by nico416

...Can you pay a man for sex and then kill him?

Ah, ha! Maybe THAT'S a secret level you can get to from an easter egg!

Oh LAWD, wait till the kids find the easter egg in the game that lets them hijack a jet and fly it into the White House killing both Bush and Cheney. Then the reall uproar will commence, huh? LOL

#79 posted by BSUWG

...they stopped using calculators to check their math because it's better to do it all by hand.

They may only imagine they are getting things done faster that way, but man... it's got so much more soul. LOL

REL Oregon continues to insist that its laws are copyrighted and can't be published

Because they "say so"?

Reminds me of the guy who not too long ago got in the center of the Denver State Capitol building and while clutching a weapon announced to everyone he was "the emperor" and said he was going to take over the state government. Why? well, because he "said so".

He was shot to death with multiple bullets.

Like all those damn yellow "support our troops" ribbons made in China? So you end up giving money to a communist, fascist state in order to "support our troops"? Hilarious.

http://www.antimagnet.com/yellow_small.gif

But, the big irony for me is that in the late 90's I used to make stickers that looked just like that but they said "Fuck Tibet" instead of "Free Tibet". I did that in America. And here is China creating the opposite pro-Tibet sticker there.

Awesome.

#76 posted by vjinterkosmos

#73: Dreamweaver :D

How very true (and very funny). XD

We're all still fightin', right? ; )

@ #60 posted by weas

Actually, I hate to break it to you but you can utilize Ajax by selecting some options in a DW "wizard" (as you call it). And, that kinda shows you haven't kept up with DW in recent years, perhaps? ; )

Granted, for more advanced customizations, etc. you should definitely know how to code Ajax, but I've already made that basic point over and over throughout this thread up there. Keep in mind too, you CAN make your own DW extensions and use others as well! A huge time saver... but, anyway, I digress....

You do realize that Opera marketshare is currently around 0.69% (just slightly ahead of Netscape)? LOL. At this point, it's up to the Opera devs to make its browser conform; not the web devs so much.

If a javascript works perfectly in various incarnations of Firefox, IE6/7 and Safari... Opera had better get on board and fast!! LOL 0.69% just doesn't give em' much pull. As a matter of fact, Opera was clinging so heavily to proper web standards that it hurt its climb in marketshare and now they've updated Opera to include workarounds to help web sites display properly! To hell with perfect standards! That's not fair in a perfect world, heh... Take that, stickler coders! LOL

Would you hold up production on a rush job if everything worked fine, but Opera takes a shit on something? Thank God there are people who look at real world scenarios outside of "coding" who control the coders or no one would make money... LOL - Same goes for lots of crappy designers out there too.

I see your designer horror stories there... but, believe me, you don't want me (or anyone else here) to go into all the numerous massive fuckups we've seen from coders who don't know shit about real business issues, design, GUIs, etc. but still think they design "great", deserve money and accolades for their work and are in shock... SHAWK!! when a good, productive, creative design team (that means good code too) comes in and swoops their client away because they produce something better than "perfect code"... a strong ROI for the client. (FTW!!)

If you think more coders know design better than designers know code, then I think you are looking at things from a skewed perspective. Maybe you think design is "easy" compared to coding? Then great design is far more complex than you know... shitty design? Easy as pie! Good designers can shit out unintelligent work that doesn't contribute to a client's ROI in a heartbeat. Strategic design that actually makes your clients shitloads of money? That's a whole nuther ballpark.

But, anyway... I think you missed my various points about coders and designers (and all the hybrids) so I'll drop it here or I'll just be repeating myself which I already have a bad habit of doing anyway.

@ #61 posted by justONEguy

LOL, right on.... Hahaha...

I can't tell you how many times I've run into hand coded sites that don't work properly in some of the main browsers and to add insult to injury the nonsensical GUI makes the web user jump through hoops (and is too cumbersome) to get anywhere.

Some coders will even put up a message that tells web users to get Firefox instead of IE to see the site properly!!! I would fire a coder on the spot for that and dust her or his reproductive organ with saltpeter to keep em' from reproducing.

#52 posted by weas

Yeah, I'm a coder...

I fricken' knew it! LOL ; )

99% of designers simply can't code.

I assume you are only using 99% as an expression, I would hope, but anyway...

Designers who can't code at all, not even simple HTML? I'd say only around 10-30%

Designers who can code simple HTML? I'd say around 65-80%
Actually, many kids in public school are taught basic HTML skills nowadays.

Designers that are great with advanced coding beyond standard HTML? Probably only 20 to 30 percent, if that?

But, I think you missed my point... a high percentage of designers KNOW when they can't code too well and don't try to play it off and will hand it off to a coder.

A bad design will go up from a decent coder and at least "function" to some degree and they can fool themselves into thinking it's great. On the other hand, bad code from a decent desiger will often break the site's functionality in some way that's more obvious to any lay-person.

I guess it's just easier for coders to fool themselves into thinking they are great designers. That's why that happens more often.

And I'm not talking about some html... Any serious web development nowadays include databases, web services, etc...

Well, you DO know that Dreamweaver will generate pages for you in PHP, ASP, JSP, CFM, etc., etc, etc. and will even let you set up a test server, etc.?

Well, anyway.... I'll just say this:

The best coders are the ones that respect the importance and skill of design and (natch) the best designers respect the importance and skill of proper code.

"... You are ignorant. ... "
" ... Repeat: FUCK Vi ..."

Oh shit, can't sleep naw... there's a Vi fight I can watch!!!!

Warning, Vi even has a gang sign so this might get brutal...

#46 posted by weas , April 30, 2008 7:59 AM

#41 "I just can't wait till DW handles CSS, Ajax, etc. better in the WYSIWYG panel and then we'll really start to see some "purist" hand coders cry."

The question is why are you using DW if TODAY you can't handle "CSS, Ajax, etc" better than if you hand-write it...

You didn't read much of this thread, did you? To go into that would be an exercise in redundancy. Start from the top, scroll down.

#38 posted by weas, April 30, 2008 7:37 AM

My experience is just the opposite. Most of the worst works I've seen are probably from designers who think they can code, but they doesn't even know what a standard is.

Well then, you're running into a poor designer and poor coder at the same time... and, on that note, that's what I've run into as well in some cases. Although, maybe it's just my luck, but I've seen many more "self-proclaimed hand coders" do the worst looking and functioning sites on earth than I've ever seen "self-proclaimed designers" output. Then again, maybe you are a coder who doesn't know the difference, weas?? LOL Just kidding (mostly).

Any good, talented designer who is properly experienced, trained, etc. will know if the code they are writing (or being written for them) is making the design/gui experience, etc. suffer.

Great designers will also factor SEO into the equation (if applicable) and tons of other considerations including target audience, browser stats, etc.. They will (optimally) run on a Mac so they can test the code on Safari (that marketshare is a'rising, can't ignore that browser anymore), watch it assplode in IE6 (with a virtualization app), also test in IE7 (with a virtualization app) and Firefox (that marketshare is significant too).

I found it hilarious (back in the day) going through tons of troubleshooting threads throughout the internet where designers on Windows were screwed because they updated to IE7 and could no longer test and watch their code fall apart in IE6 because Windows wouldn't let them run both IE 6 & 7 on the same system without a crappy hack that screwed with both apps... LOL.

Anyway... while I agree that there are definitely designers out there who are piss poor coders and somehow think they are good coders somehow... I have experienced far more coders who feel they are fine designers and royally suck.

Then there are those rare coders who can do good design and vice versa, but, even then, they really should probably just be focusing more of their time on design and leave the coding to the hardcore coders.

Lack of sleep make cow not type good... signing off.

BTW...

Which is faster?

1) typing out links: -a href="http://www.yayimaroughntuffhandcoder.com/greatpage.html"-Here's my great link thing-/a-????

or

highlight / drag arrow

?

LOL

Not to mention, Adobe DW is great for collaboration and despite the "experts" up there I know of top fortune 500 company departments that use it extensively. Oh, and it works fairly seamlessly with Adobe Contribute so that (oh no! the hand coders gasp) even other non-IT office workers can quickly and easily (and safely) change up stuff on the site if they have an authorization key sent to them. I've seen plenty of technophobes (some elderly too) ace Contribute because it's so user friendly.

Contribute is very advanced in its GUI - the staff using it can actually find links by browsing the web and even get a little thumbnail preview of the site after they make it link so they can be sure they picked the right one. It not only has "undo" for them, but will also let them rollback to previous versions that are stored by Contribute on the server (they can pick it by date and time). Meanwhile, the IT staff can monitor everything they are doing in DW while collaborating with each other through the DW interface. Welp, I'll stop here, this is just a very tiny aspect of the power of using DW. Any more info and I'll need to charge consultation fees. LOL

Now, can both DW and Contribute be better? Absolutely. But to blow them off without first extensively testing them in real world environments and making sure that YOU are using them properly? Dumb, real dumb.

I just can't wait till DW handles CSS, Ajax, etc. better in the WYSIWYG panel and then we'll really start to see some "purist" hand coders cry.

#18 posted by assumetehposition , April 30, 2008 6:16 AM

...Because web design is 2/3 programming and 1/3 actual design...

LOL!! Maybe where you work!!

That kind of ratio spawns shit like this....
via boingboing entry:
► Car dealer site is "champion in the annals of bad interfaces"

Some of the worst sites I've ever experienced were made by coders who don't have the experience, talent or extensive training it takes to actually design... but they either downplay design, or worse, think they CAN design. LOL

arkizzle, to clarify, my sarcasm was directed to the "experts" up there in this thread that basically said no major site developers use Dreamweaver and then mocked Boing Boing in various ways for even bringing this "moot point" up. Also, I find the "he-man" approach to hand coding everything pretty fucking hilarious.

now, if their point is that there are no top developers that can't hand code at all (i.e., can't go beyond what DW9.x can do and extend it)... then I agree. I haven't met anyone that can't code at all and still compete well.

but, actually, I happen to know plenty of pros that utilize DW in conjunction with hand coding and not only "compete" against "purist" hand coders... but also destroy them in both design and in speed - you know, getting a superior product finished.... in LESS time. The WYSIWYG interface is just one small aspect of what DW offers for devs, but i'm sure those experts up there know that already, huh? i bet they also have rigorously tried using DW9.x with xGestures as well, huh? LOL

at the same time, certain types of projects or parts of projects come up where they only use DW for editing code in "code view" or skip it all together and use less bloated apps (like Coda) and/or other apps more suitable for CSS, etc.

but, to dismiss DW offhand (nowadays) is silly. i usually find that comes from people who haven't used DW in quite a few years... back when it did produce some really crappy code. DW8.x started to fix a lot of those issues and DW9.x is getting even better.

How can you spot someone who hasn't actually used DW in recent years, but bashes it anyway? They compare it with Frontpage usually.

#15 posted by arkizzle

COW, really?

IM ALL IN UR THREAD WIT HAND CODE LINK!!!11

► O RLY

Real men hand code and do it fast because they load up on jolt cola.

Yeah, no real pro web site developer would ever use Dreamweaver or a Mac for that matter. You can't compete using those products. Just stick with hand coding everything on a PC. And, don't use Coda on Mac either, it's just getting closer to using Dreamweaver which every pro knows is absolutely useless... like Macs. Yep, the only way is hand coding (which is incredibly fast) with a basic text editor. Be sure to avoid BBedit too, it's also getting closer to Dreamweaver non-functionality and time-wasting additions that couldn't possibly make web site production faster and better.

@ #33 posted by toad

Please tell me that supposed to be a comedy, right?

RE: #28 posted by HarveyBoing

You spill your drink into your expensive Mac laptop and you get mad at... Apple?

Projection will get you nowhere.

Love the sly reference to the Ramones song, I wanna be sedated.

nice... nice...

What is up with blip.tv videos. They skip like crazy and are unwatchable on older machines that can play YouTube movies perfectly fine. On newer machines, plays OK but I can see that it's CPU intensive. Are people only with newer computers supposed to watch blip.tv vids?

: (

#88 posted by Gemma , April 24, 2008 4:02 PM

.

Don't think me unkind
Words are hard to find
They're only cheques I've left unsigned
From the banks of chaos in my mind
And when their eloquence escapes me
Their logic ties me up and rapes me

De do do do de da da da
Is all I want to say to you
De do do do de da da da
Their innocence will pull me through
De do do do de da da da
Is all I want to say to you
De do do do de da da da
They're meaningless and all that's true

Poets, priests and politicians
Have words to thank for their positions
Words that scream for your submission
And no-one's jamming their transmission
'Cos when their eloquence escapes you
Their logic ties you up and rapes you

De do do do de da da da
Is all I want to say to you
De do do do de da da da
Their innocence will pull me through
De do do do de da da da
Is all I want to say to you
De do do do de da da da
They're meaningless and all that's true

#7 posted by noen , April 23, 2008 5:53 PM

Max Crumb ... I guess he'd be revered as a holy man in India but in the US he's a freak. Go figure.

I'm pretty sure they frown upon stripping women of their clothing against their will over in India, but maybe you're right.

I wonder if a modified green laser could burn up those speakers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vzheMrf5pM

or something like this?

http://www.truveo.com/Turn-Your-5mW-Laser-Pointer-into-a-BURNING-BEAST/id/3984160638

I mean, I'm not promoting it... wouldn't want to catch the whole building on fire or anything. But, if I was teenager... I'm pretty sure I would "carefully" do it if the speaker was against non-flammable brick like in that picture BB posted. It would be a pretty stealth solution to an annoying problem.

I mean, I'm not promoting it... but I'd probably have my pal go inside and use TV-B-Gone as a diversion while I fried the shit out of those speakers outside.

Kids, don't do that...

I think it would be funny to see a bunch of kids hanging at one of these places with noise-canceling headphones on that nix that particular frequency for them.

They could loiter around, play dice and gamble with each other's headphones.

I, for one, welcome our new butter shortage overlords.

I always got the feeling the movie Fight Club was paying some props to the WU.

For your viewing pleasure:
http://flickr.com/photos/49403380@N00/2437031551/

Dammit, I think those tee shirt ink fumes are finally catching up to me... I meant to post that last thing above in the Weather Underground thread!

I always got the feeling the movie Fight Club was paying some props to the WU.

For your viewing pleasure:
http://flickr.com/photos/49403380@N00/2437031551/

#63 posted by Takuan , April 23, 2008 4:14 PM

hey COW, that's from Revelations?

I don't know what series it's from, just know the artist is Kris Kuksi who also does amazing sculpture. He's been mentioned on BB before.

Check out this new "Churchtank Type 5A" piece he's done.... "holy" shit!!! http://www.kuksi.com/

Here's some of the best close-up pictures of his work I've ever seen. Amazing. http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/10/art-of-grotesque.html

#62 posted by disarticulate , April 23, 2008 4:04 PM

Comment #61 would be more vibrant with a pique of brownish tint to draw out the stubborn facetiousness that taints his canvas of words.

Stimulating brownish tint? LOL, what, like this? Now that's real good ole American art that sticks to yer ribs.

#4 posted by alisong76 , April 23, 2008 3:49 PM

And Robert Crumb had a thing for Bugs Bunny. I find Waters a lot less objectionable as a person and an artist, however...

If Waters was raised like Crumb, how do you think he would've turned out? I think most people would have turned out pretty fricken' wacked. Actually, Crumb is really the breakout achiever in his family and is probably the most, uh... well-adjusted.. considering...

One of Crumbs brothers has already killed himself and the other one (when he's not ripping clothes off of women he doesn't know) sits on a bed of sharp nails for hours and swallows rope or some stuff and slowly passes it out his ass while he's still nomming away. Ok, I'll stop there, you probably get the point... er, actually, I'm not sure if I was making a point, carry on...

"How sad that you mere mortals ignore my fantastic interpretation of monkeys copulating as humans! I feel sorrow for you and hope you learn to stare at walls and get hit by bicycles while being awestruck at my intentionally bland art"

GAWD

So nobody on the street seemed to pay it much mind, yet his stuff fetches tons of money? So maybe that means the less people like stuff, the more esoteric it is... the more it's worth?

OK, I'm going to start shitting on canvas, cover it with a thick coat of lacquer and put it up in galleries for 10 million... if that doesn't sell, I'll do another one without the lacquer to make it even more "esoteric".

I thought this was some kind of spoof - especially when the lady with the black turtleneck outfit broke bad with adoration for this travesty on canvas.

Then I slowly began to realize... these people are being serious!

► This should sell for far more than Tuymans' crap. Does this compare? Sigh...

I apologize to anyone in advance who connects with his paintings and enjoys them. I'm just outraged that people pay so much money for this stuff. It just doesn't seem right.

When chipmunks trespass, they get it up the...

#30 posted by Antinous

It's not the ass part that's embarrassing; it's the Axe part.

Was it really Axe body spray? I didn't even check out the article, I just guessed it was Axe!

... because only assholes use Axe.

#90 posted by hallpass , April 22, 2008 8:59 PM

#86 - "Don't film cops... especially when they are breaking rules or you might end up with a dirt nap."

I disagree. You should always take pictures of cops whenever possible. What would the world be like if the Rodney King camera man had run away.

You disagree? With who, me?

You took my words completely out of context. I was saying that is the MESSAGE the cops were trying to get across to us. It wasn't some kind of "warning" from me to everyone here or whatever. Re-read my original post a little slower. I think we should film authorities every bit as much as they are filming our asses on a daily basic with security cams, etc.

#41 posted by Boba Fett Diop , April 23, 2008 7:59 AM

The most striking thing about this account is the apparent irrationality of nearly all of the acts performed by the guards and interrogators. The activities at Guantanamo (and probably at Bagram and Abu Ghraib as well) are not about catching terrorists. They are about punishment, plain and simple. Punishment of whoever is available. It's saying "we're angry, and we don't want to think to hard about why, and you're a convenient target."

Yeah, I can't wait till these people come back to the states and become police officers. Should do wonders to help smack down dissent, democracy, etc. Can't have things like that; not here in this country; not in a time of perpetual war.

Speaking of "perpetual war"... God, I can't even re-read Nineteen Eighty-Four anymore, it's just so damn creepily prescient of our current American military state it numbs the mind.

#39 posted by xopl

FifthE1ement says that even if we can save one life, torturing is worth it. ... I say, even if we torture one single innocent individual, torturing wasn't worth it.

That's brilliant xopl. Simple and very much to the point.

#19 posted by YouAreWhatYouBleat

You Americans have been using waterboarding since the invasion of the Philippines 1901. Have a look at Waterboarding

Yes, have a look. It was considered a national disgrace by Americans at large and there were court-martials.

And, it gets more complex. According to Taft, in some instances the Filipinos were actually eager to share intelligence with the Americans, but didn't want to be killed for doing so. Therefore, they would literally tell the soldiers they wouldn't say anything until they were "tortured" and would have it done publicly so all their peers would know they were "tortured" into giving out info. That explains why there are actual photos, etc. of the events set right in public.

In any case, I don't think the "torture" that went on in the Philippines is really a good comparison to the state-sanctioned, procedural, absolutely real torture that is approved by the highest levels of American government today.

The real story is how cowed the American public are today. Back then, it was a shock and national disgrace... an outrage... followed by repercussions. Today, the chicken-shit, scared American public sheep quietly allow it happen. Incredibly sad.

#22 posted by FifthE1ement

Do you think the Taliban thinks about the rights of the civilian cameraman before he cuts off his head? Do they? Get over yourselves...

So, shall we sink to the level of terrorists? Is that how it works? We degrade our morals, our humanity to the level of base animals?

Well, FifthE1ement... why don't we cut off their heads!!! That'll show em, right? C'mon, don't puss out now, FifthE1ement!! Eye for eye... head for a head!!! Too extreme, FifthE1ement? Get over yourself...

So, sarcasm aside... Does that help us "win" the war on terror or does that only show that we've truly LOST the war on terror by becoming our enemy?

Doesn't it take MORE courage to RISE ABOVE? .... sorry, I don't want to roll around in the filth of depravation, fear and petty vengeance you seem to wallow in, FifthE1ement. I'm an American that still has this thing called... PRIDE. You know, still believing in the foundations of our country... rights of people... shit like that...

I'm so tired of Do-Gooders going around promoting the rights of people...

I bet you are.... I bet you are...

I bet you wish Thomas Jefferson was around today so you could slap him across his face, huh? That rat bastard even put human rights in our Declaration of Independence. What a wimp, what a fool.

#32 posted by Gort

ACX99 - have you got any references your statement? Just curious - would like to look into that more (and please don't send a wikipedia link - that doesn't count).

Actually, Gort. Have you taken a good look at Wikipedia? It's replete with references at the bottom of every article. It's a great place to start your own research on many topics. I usually skip through a lot of what I read in the article and just start filling up my browser tabs with the reference links at the bottom of the page and start digging from there. Also, the "talk pages" can have a wealth of info that's in dispute about the subject (with even more links, etc.)

Wikipedia bashing is so early 2000's ...

#33 posted by lindsayl284

Artist: Adam Freeland Track: Burn the Clock Album: Now and Them

Thank you, Lindsay!!!

#12 posted by WeightedCompanionCube

Violence in general is a flawed but valid option when one human being needs to interrogate or coerce another.

Dear WCC,

Is that why we lost WWII? Because we didn't torture like the Japanese did? Yep, such a shame we lost that war... geez, if only we had tortured more...

Yah, we would have lost our standing and respect in the world, degenerated the evolution of mankind and promoted even more torture by others in the world by our shining example... but, at least we would have won WWII.

Welp, gotta go... I'm late for a Nazi Party cookout next door.

Heil Hitler,

Cow

#1 posted by Xopher , April 22, 2008 8:16 PM

... I'm already convinced that waterboarding is torture and must be stopped, and I really, really don't need to see it done to anyone. This will help keep me out of movie theatres ...

Well, if you really want to be able to get back in movie theatres, you'd better get out there and do more protesting of torture if you're not already.

If waterboarding looks that disturbing to you, I bet it feels pretty shady in reality, huh?

: /

Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death! - DK

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BTW, does anyone know what music that was?? Artist and/or Song title??

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

- Orwell

#76 posted by Jupiter12 , April 22, 2008 12:21 PM

Street photography is friendly here in the midwest. ... I saw a girl get arrested recently and while she was being cuffed & stuffed, her boyfriend was videotaping the arresting officer. The cops didn't care one bit; I wouldn't be surprised if they smiled for the camera.

I guess it depends on your local cop climate. I lived in a city rampant with corruption and my friend attempted to video tape city cops breaking up a peaceful party (only loud music, no fights) with a ridiculous amount of force.

They grabbed him and the video camera, threw him in the cop car and threatened him in various ways all the way to the station. Along the way, they destroyed the tape. I can't remember what they charged him with, but the point was made. Don't film cops... especially when they are breaking rules or you might end up with a dirt nap.

I hate it when I stick canisters of Axe body spray up my ass and it end up on the international news.

RE: Photos

An angel on the left... a nightmare on the right...

There's no mistakin'... who I'll be with tonight....

Naomi Klein is dumb, dumbest, really dumb, ignorant of economics, deluded, misleading, childish, emotional, fringy, a hater, foul-mouthed, fundamentalist, privledged [sic], vapid, niave, polemic, off-base, associates with anti-americans, etc., etc....

Yeah, God forbid she speaks of human rights, corruption, fairness, etc. in this day and age.... that's a whole lot to handle in American society nowadays, isn't it?

Wow, where did all this troll-action come from? I get the feeling this link was shared on some conservative site and they all flew in like an unwelcome, unhelpful disease.

I'd love to see the referring sites related to the IPs for some of these dicks in here raging on this great, beautiful (inside and out), intelligent woman.

I just wish I could wake up tommorrow and Naomi Klein was running for president instead of Hillary. Or, better yet... she WAS president. Be a country I could be proud of again...

I don't even know why great people like her try anyone. Many of you assholes don't deserve someone like her looking out for you. You deserve a despotic regime... and I fear that's what you'll continue to get and drag the rest of us with your sorry asses while you're at it.

"... Taunkin is scary . Macho big brain. My feeble input is looking at the possibility that day labor is out lawed. ... "

" ... Fear stops mind. ... "

I think I agree with fltndboat's and Takuan's last statements and I also approve of and want the drugs they are on. LOL

#88 posted by Xopher , April 21, 2008 9:28 PM

you were sexually molesting chipmunks in your back yard.

Yes, but the chipmunks were asking for it. Trespassing is a serious crime.

#83 posted by Davin , April 21, 2008 8:37 PM

That's... reading pretty far into what I said. But judging by your reaction, that's probably the only way you'll read anything.

I read everything you said, thank you very much. But, obviously, you still need some work with comprehension skills yourself there, partner.

I'll put it another way for you. You are judging someone's "character" in your post based on an out of context quote that she has basically denied. Just because because a journalist has the OPINION that her explanation for the comment is "implausible", doesn't make it so, my friend.

That's basing my opinion on fact, instead of on yet another opinion. Not sure why you have a problem with that... except maybe that it doesn't custom fit into your view on things?

I have a complex understanding of the WU and I agree AND disagree with them on various tactics and issues. Do you?

#69 posted by noen , April 21, 2008 8:05 PM

I have to wonder if there is anyone left who would fight for freedom.

Amen, brother... I wonder that myself. I think people like Moon would crawl under a bed and cry if it came down to it.

America is in a very, very sad state.
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#71 posted by Davin , April 21, 2008 8:07 PM

But when someone is cheering on mutilation or the murder of innocent people because they're part of the status quo, well, hrm.

That's funny, you're stating that out of context comment as FACT when it's only been alleged and subsequently DENIED. I guess there's only one side to this story and that's what the media fed you?
________________________________________________

Sigh... America is so FUCKED....

#54 posted by Moon , April 21, 2008 7:28 PM

If you feel that bombing buildings is the way to go, you are no better than Timothy McVeigh, which is about where I put the Weathermen.

McVeigh's bomb killed: 168 people including children

Weathermen's bombs killed: 0

ZERO.

McVeigh intentionally killed people, the Weathermen went out of their way NOT to hurt anyone and were remarkably successful ... there was not even one recorded injury to the public!

BTW, if your comment, "If you feel that bombing buildings is the way to go" was directed at me... uh, go back and READ what I've said. While I actually DO understand WHY they did it, I don't think violence was a good tactic. As a matter of fact, the documentary goes into this in great detail if you can bother to educate yourself on this issue by watching it.

I simply don't have a black and white, write and wrong, dealing in absolutes, narrow-minded opinion on the matter... sorry.

#52 posted by Antinous , April 21, 2008 7:23 PM

Twisted around his naughty bits?

That would explain the rage and the high-pitched shrieking.

LOL

Moonspeak:

the Black Panthers didn't want anything to do with them. These people were just dicks, playing around and figuring they could get away with it. Spoiled brats with a bad agenda.

While I agree that "some" of the Black Panthers didn't want to be associated with the WU at certain points in time... you are WAY off (as udders have pointed out above) Do you honestly think it was fun "playing around" being held upside-down out a window by a Fed? Or being in hiding away from family for years on end? Moon, you are acting a little delusional here...

Moon, what's it like to be so incredibly wrong on so many fronts all at once? It's gotta hurt the brain a bit.

Have you read anything on these people based on fact? Have you "bothered" to watch the fairly unbiased documentary on them? If you don't have enough money, just download it from the link I put above in this thread. If possible, keep an open mind while watching it.

It may ease your pain.

► Required viewing:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/287540

It's a torrent. A lot of people on Windows like to use Azureus to download torrent files. And pretty much the best for Mac is Transmission

On Mac or Windows, use VLC to watch it. You can download that here: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Synopsis: Weather Underground Documentary

In the 1960s and 1970s, the polarization of the political situation of the USA was becoming acute with the Vietnam War abroad and civil rights at home being but the most obvious issues. For the youth political movement, the seemingly ineffectual methods of peaceful protest and resistance led to the rise of an idealistic faction that want a more extreme approach that the Establishment could not ignore. This faction, called the Weather Underground, attempted to team up with the Black Panthers to violently confront the US government that started with street riots and escalating to bombing government targets. Thorough archival footage and interviews of the veterans of both sides of this conflict, this film covers the resistance movement's campaign of selective violence through this period until changing times and disillusionment brought it to an end while the FBI used unethical and illegal methods to hasten it.

#30 posted by Mike8787 , April 21, 2008 6:24 PM

... the only people killed by the WU were blown up by accident, and they were WU members themselves.

Actaully, others were killed in a hold up by a WU members. But, you are correct in saying that they were remarkably careful in not injuring people with the bombs. (IOW, Clinton is a full of shiot fear monger)

#25 posted by Brian Carnell , April 21, 2008 6:14 PM

Except Bill Ayers doesn't think setting bombs was a mistake. So, defining him by that seems very appropriate.

Are you an American, Brian...? We have killed well over twice as many Iraqi civilians in 5 years than what Saddam Hussein's regime killed in over 20 years time total.

How does that define YOU, Brian?

" ... There was only ONE incident of direct physical harm to humans and it was only to that faction of the Weatherman (3 Weathermen died in one explosion) ... "

I should correct myself there, I'm referring to the bombing campaigns only, but that comes across differently.

There were other civilians killed in a hold up, etc.

► Disclaimer: I don't agree with (all) the tactics of the 1960/70s era Weather Underground, so trying to paint me as an apologist for them won't get you very far, schmucks.

Wow... Big SHAWKER....here come the hit pieces and LIES. Did anyone notice the last Clinton/Obama debate where Cliniton LIED about the Weathermen?

She basically said they had killed people multiple times with multiple incidents of bombings. Was this while she was ducking sniper fire, I wonder? LOL

That's a LIE. An idiotic faction of the Weatherman blew themselves up ONCE and after that the rest of the Weather Underground was always very careful to only harm structures... NOT people (very remarkably). There was only ONE incident of direct physical harm to humans and it was only to that faction of the Weatherman (3 Weathermen died in one explosion)

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Here's what scares the hell out of the powers that be. They could NOT catch most of these people until they turned themselves in. Whether you agree with the WU or not, you have to respect the fact that American citizens were able to outsmart the world's most powerful killing machine empire right in its own turf. EVEN with the FBI going way outside of the law in the process of trying to apprehend them!

Meanwhile, let's demonize the shit out of the WU while American harbingers of (ongoing) genocide still go unpunished to this day. Priorities, people... priorities...

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WU bombs didn't kill innocent people....

BUT, America's war in Iraq has now killed well over twice as many Iraqi civilians in 5 years.... than what Saddam Hussein's regime killed in over 20 years time... TOTAL.

Instead of chasing the WU boogie-man around... Maybe it's time for some of us to look in the fucking mirror OURSELVES, America.

God damn fucking hypocrites.

shit... I screwed up with my "bold" tag up there... it was only supposed to bold "Agent 86"...

Agent 86, don't listen to me, it was just my knee-jerk reaction when I thought about my experiences as a pro printer. Now that I think about it, I really doubt there's too much harm in just running off a few political shirts with a blow dryer or whatever. I mean, doing them in mass is another story... but just a few shirts here and there I doubt is very dangerous to your health. I professionally printed a ton of shirts for quite a while before I quit doing it and I haven't been diagnosed with any neurological disorders (yet). YMMV, of course.

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I agree with pahool, while there are "finer points" to printing... for example, professionally, I used an expensive exposure unit that used a vacuum and rubber bladder to force the screen, glass and film positive as tightly together as possible to help remove bleed.

But, if you just want to throw out some "fuck bush" shirts, etc. then guerrilla-style printing will do fine. And if you are careful in the process, I'm sure you can come out with some pro-looking stuff. (especially if you use film positives instead of trying to use ink-jets on transparency paper or whatever) ... even though, I HAVE seen some good stuff come out that way on occasion (when layered) and even laser printing on vellum paper has worked OK. I mean, as a pro... I used film positives, but before I went pro I experimented with all kinds of crap and some even worked well.

I used to print tee shirts in my graphics shop and it is a NASTY business.

Cleaning screens requires harsh chemicals and the ink? Very NASTY.

The Plastisol ink says on the label "partial contents unknown" and when you cure the ink it releases gases into the air you breathe that causes neurological damage.

I had a conveyor dryer with a vent and fan that blew a lot of the gases outside, but quite a bit still came out the sides I'm sure.

I got out of the business pretty quickly, the money was good... but I felt bad about being a polluter and I hated working with nasty chemicals.

I looked into water-based inks and they had some environmental advantages, but were more of a pain to work with than plastisol and you still ended up with working with some nasty chemicals.

I don't know, maybe nowadays there are like some soy-based inks or something that isn't so toxic??? But, I suspect it's still a nasty business overall.

Some up there seemed to freak out at my observation that Microsoft has cost "us" trillions, is bad for charity, America, the World, etc. Teresa is right, I should have brought up more specific points instead of saying "do your own research" [and thank you for adding those links, info, etc. Teresa!]

But, it's complicated and I honestly don't have time to spell out what's readily available with some research and "putting two and two together"... if some of you can't see the far-reaching problems of Microsoft's unethical, bribe-induced monopoly (YES, monopoly)... then you really are NOT looking. (especially if you are going to mince words about them being a monopolistic entity in the first place, LOL)

If you don't believe that hurting healthy business competition and innovation on such a ridiculously large scale didn't cost us all in the trillions, then you've got to be delusional... or worse, a commie.

They didn't just hurt other tech businesses by playing dirty, they hurt everyone on this planet who ended up wasting time and money with a vastly inferior product born from a lack of healthy competition. Yah... that cost the planet a "buck" or two in time/money, huh?

Think of it this way.. when you add up all the losses to small business in productivity (or worse, solvency from MS attacks, etc.) and the fact that these small businesses are the overwhelming part of the charity pie chart.... don't you think that... oh, that just might have hurt charity overall? Including the funding of school programs, etc.? Charity comes overwhelmingly from small business and so do American jobs. The corporate machine would rather you not acknowledge it, but it's a fact... American jobs are driven by small business, NOT fucking Wal-Mart.

I'm not going to apologize for believing in a free, competitive marketplace. Microsoft thwarted growth for the planet by poisoning the diverse, evolutionary garden of free enterprise and destroying innovation wherever it reared it's beautiful head. If "innovation" is only a "word" to you... you're not considering all the far-reaching implications of the word in this context. Remember, well over 90% of the world uses Windows.. that's a huge, global effect from one business entity that this planet has never seen before.... A few paltry billion dollars to some charities isn't going to patch the trillions in wounds, sorry.

Think long and hard about "innovation" and what it means to mankind. Then get back to me about my "ridiculous" comments about Microsoft costing mankind so much.

So...well, after all that... you'd think the Gates foundation was trying to make amends.... but are they?

http://www.democracynow.org/2007/1/9/report_gates_foundation_causing_harm_with

With foundations like these, who need enemies?

LOL, very constructive, Takuan.

#10 posted by elNico , April 10, 2008 4:42 AM

I wonder when "operating systemism" will be clearly regarded as the moronic BS that it really is...

Oh, look... we have an upset PC user. Is is "moronic" that I could give two shits about PCs? Why should I care about a platform I don't use? Because it upsets you?

I wonder when those that financially supported the globally desructive, anti-American Microsoft monopoly that raped charity in the trillions will be clearly regarded as the moronic idiots that they really are?

Just wondering...

I hope there's no one out there still fooling themselves.

We ARE a military state under military rule.

The America our founding fathers envisioned is dead. Pray for rebirth and revolution.

corporations=militiary=government > american people

A lot of trolls turn out to be conservative republicans after further investigation. Does this surprise anyone?

#1 posted by Kevin , August 30, 2007 10:59 AM:

Are the statistics down again? When I click on the link, I get an empty page.

I just tried:
http://www.boingboing.net/stats/

Still a blank page. Guess BB pulled them down permanently?

#15 posted by forgeweld

How does this fit into the "Wonderful Things" subhead?

Well... I'll put it this way... the "Wonderful DIY pipe organ" post just below this one is hovering around 8 comments total so far, and this one is now pushing over 60+ comments. That pipe organ post may be wonderful, but this youtube divorce is full of wonder.

I don't know how I can tell, but somehow I can tell the person shooting the video thinks she's an arse. Maybe it's the lengthy pauses in certain areas, I don't know. Anyone else sense it?

Alternate title: Daddy no longer has a micro-penis

phas3d , April 16, 2008 10:09 AM

Also, I would recommend everyone reading this to go to some doctor review sites and popular surgery sites and leave negative feedback about this doctor.

Good way to get sued by this doctor, phas3d. I wonder if Boing Boing will give up your IP address if subpoenaed?

IOW, why stoop to this level? Just shun his books and shun him. Write poor reviews on his book, not on his services. Book burning is for.... well, I don't want to invoke Godwin's law here, but you should know what I mean.

Tyler sold his soap to department stores at $20 a bar. Lord knows what they charged. It was beautiful. We were selling rich women their own fat asses back to them.

http://rustyoscar.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/fight-club-still.jpg

"Gee kids, maybe you can learn to hate yourself just as much as I do!!!"

I vote this most souless, evil corporate spawn of a book.... this year.

http://www.mylovedmoms.com/t/071125/e9bfaac8e5.jpg
NSFW (but you'll click it anyway)

I came

So sad that this is even news... we are raising coward sheep in this country... subservient little bitches... welp, they'll make great followers, whether it be fighting wars for the elite rich heading up corporate ventures of genocide or just general slaves. Good going, slavemaster, weak-minded parents.

We would ride our bikes all over town when I was a kid and sometimes even into other nearby towns. We were never murdered or anything (even at times when we were up to no good and probably deserved it, LOL). My childhood was an adventure way too exciting for bullshit TV or video games (most of the time anyway).

Hell, I even got a surfboard rack for my bicycle and rode across town to the beach to surf.

I can't imagine what all this pussy coddling does to some of these kids minds nowadays... sad, just sad....

Fear is the mindkiller.

Jesus Christ, Takuan.... O_o

thx justaguy

#15 posted by Takuan , April 10, 2008 9:21 PM

not bad! Though the Hoff Soap was a bit much.

You didn't like the Hoff Soap?! C'mon! It was the icing on the cake!

I remixed the video:

► http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoRsVkrnxQk

Don't expect much, I did it in about 7 min.s

nexisnet , April 10, 2008 6:02 PM

I like how the video also shows someone opening a bathroom stall door, but not how they plan on turning the little bolt crank.

You use your tongue.

Consumers with food safety questions can "Ask Karen," the FSIS virtual representative available 24 hours a day at AskKaren.gov.

I asked Karen: Who eats cow heads?

Karen replied, " ... Deer live in woodlands all over Europe, Asia, northern Africa and America. There are many deer species of various sizes but all the males grow antlers. The meat is lean and has a gamey flavor that can be made milder if soaked overnight. ... "

Here you go Apple Mac users:

► http://rianjs.net/dump/Magnetosphere.bundle.zip

Drag the plug-in to:
Library/iTunes/iTunes Plug-ins

Also, download here:

► http://rs346.rapidshare.com/files/96203368/Magnetosphere.bundle.zip

Sorry PC users, I could give two shits about PCs... LOL

Magnetosphere iTunes plugin product description on Versiontracker is great:

Product Description:

Here is this thing that does stuff in iTunes. There is magnetism, there is gravity, but on top of all of that, there is awesomeness. Watch as all the dots and ribbons go bouncy bouncy when you play music and trigger this mo-fo of a visualizer. This is the future of visuals. God help you if you smoke the reefer cause you can kiss your productivity goodbye.

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32769&vid=435374

As udders have said, they pulled it off the site. I have the latest beta (for Apple Mac) and am going to seed it on the torrents shortly.

semiotix , April 8, 2008 10:37 AM:

Also, I'd just like to toss this out there: "invisible sky wizard" is roughly in the same connotative space as n****r.

Maybe God should start his own civil rights movement against such, er... racism, er... heresy against himself? LOL Couple bolts of lightning should do the trick, no?

semiotix, seriously... if "invisible sky wizard" is roughly in the same connotative space as "nigger", then I guess calling the "True Russian Orthodox Church" sect a "cult" is also close to the same connotative "nigger" space as well?

BTW, the "True Russian Orthodox Church" was those, er... "religious practitioners" who recently holed up inside a cave outside of Moscow and stockpiled food and 100 gallons of kerosene. You know, the whole "end of the world" coming thing?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/europe/defiant-russian-cult-holed-up-in-cave-for-end-of-the-world-400863.html

Dare we call them a "cult"? After all, we don't want to sound racist, right? er, what? LOL

Besides, don't worry... My God slaughtered the invisible sky wizard eons ago in glorious interstellar battle. It's a moot argument. My God was bigger than your god.

You douse water on that alligator in Japan and he walks on his hind legs. You douse water on a dirty source hippy and they scurry under a rock and pray you don't have soap. Strange.

hmmm....

Nice, (s)he has the tape cassette storage AND floppy drives.

Wow, I remember how amazing it was to go from cassette tape storage to floppy on my Atari 800 (which I upgraded from the 400 after mowing lawns, working construction, selling plumbs off our plumb tree for money, etc.)

Than you gotta add the Star Wars glasses?! Oh, the nostalgia

I loved in the documentary called "The Corporation" where they determined what kind of "person" corporations are as a whole. The diagnosis?

Lying, hypocritical psychopaths.

Instead of corporate America (an oxymoron) shouldn't we just call it "lying, hypocritical psychopathic America"?

http://www.thecorporation.com/index.cfm?page_id=312

I feel left out, Hounskull hasn't called me an idiot yet. Or, maybe he implied it earlier somehow and I fricken' missed it? rats....

#38 posted by Skep , April 2, 2008 3:56 PM:

"#34 Whut Phuji Phears (NSFW, but you'll click it anyway)"

Indeed I did. I think the photos displayed there, being for commercial purposes, are not typical of IR and the swim suits chosen were most likely chosen to give dramatic results. In fact, I think at least one of them is one of those super thin "Tan through your swimsuit" suits.

CONSPIRACY !!!

I never should have trusted this guy.

#116 posted by Takuan , April 2, 2008 6:56 PM

Cow; quit being a jerk.

You mean, calling out BS on someone being rude, arrogant as hell, etc. to me? Sure, I'm done.

BTW, calling me names isn't helping. It only puts you beneath me at this point. Try to have a good night.

Antinous , April 2, 2008 6:21 PM

Thanks Cowicide for trying to threaten me by demonstrating that you have access to my real name. I've been visited by the Secret Service. They already know me.

Dude, you were 12 years old in 1970... get real. The SS could give two shits about you, trust me. Moove on... Moove on...

Antinous , April 2, 2008 6:03 PM

Cowicide,
You're a gas bag. I have first-hand experience. You saw a documentary.

Well, John. Maybe you should go turn yourself in finally? LOL

RE: #102 POSTED BY ANTINOUS:

COW: the WU didn't "go away" as you say

ANT: I didn't say that. I know what they've evolved to.

Spin it all you want, but you definitely implied they "went away" when you said, " ... it didn't work in the 60s and 70s, it sure as hell ain't gonna work now. .... "

I assume what you meant was that violent revolution isn't going to work. But, if you bothered to watch the documentary I posted, you would've seen that nearly all members of the WU renounce those tactics for a multitude of good reasons, but some continue the struggle to this day in more evolved ways (That, for one, make it far more difficult for the FBI, etc. to come fuck with you, divide & conquer, etc.). There are tactics far more subversive and effective than bombs.

But, you knew that already, didn't you? After all, you gots teh credentials.

ANT: my credentials on this subject trump yours and probably those of the other commenters here.

Jesus Christ, listen to yourself there.... you might need to see a life coach yourself there partner and learn a bit more on the topics of humility and blind assumption.

So you're pretty convinced you know more about the WU than everyone else on Boing Boing? Congrats. Did you run through the AT&T wiretap data on everyones "credentials" here? LOL

I'm not going to play this inane pissing match with you on who knows more about WU or whatever trite shit you're trying to pull here.

I'll just await your authoritative book on the matter instead.

BTW, if you're bitter because no one has patted you on the back for "swallowing the red pill" (as you say) for 5 years or whatever, get over yourself. Effective activism is often incredibly thankless at its best and results in death/torture at its worst... if you are doing it for attention or to get laid... you're doing it wrong.

Sincerely,

Cowicide
Extreme Moderate
(Yes, I called myself that well before the HBO John Adams mini-series, you can look it up) LOL

Antinous:

Cowicide, I took that red pill for five years. If it didn't work in the 60s and 70s, it sure as hell ain't gonna work now.

Uh, that's pretty much the entire point of the documentary that I posted, Antinous... but, the WU didn't "go away" as you say; it's evolved. Keep swallowing that pill, I don't think it's taken complete effect yet.

CraigGNoble, there's far more things going on than you seem know about... there's water flowing underground in these here United States of America, but you're not going to find it on Canadian television either.

absimiliard said:

... Since the climate in the US is not currently one that would allow armed revolution I'm not on-board with anything else at the moment. When that climate changes I'll consider it.

For now I prefer the Rule of Law.

But if it gets much worse I'll have to start looking at the weather more often, so to speak. ...

You don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

ATTN: To those who don't know what's being inferred about up there....

This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes... ((It's about fucking time Boing Boing had a link to this thing anyway, damn))

► Red Pill

► Blue Pill

If you choose the red pill, use VLC to watch it, download here

Whut Phuji Phears (NSFW, but you'll click it anyway)

Speaking of living a false delusion...

Scientology = LOSERS
Anonymous = LOSERS

End of discussion.

Tree Shapiro:

People want to know whether BoingBoing takes product in exchange for posting about it. Full stop. It's a legitimate question and deserves an answer.

Actually, Tree... speak for yourself. I could really give a shit. You act like they are your elected politicians or some crap. LOL They owe you.... nothing. You might as well like it.

Alternative ending:

...the bullet proceeded to travel through vital control mechanisms that caused the jumbo jet to lose control and slam into the Sears tower, causing it to collapse and kill about 3000 people.

If you like to gamble, I tell you I'm your man
You win some, lose some, it's -all- the same to me
The pleasure is to play, it makes no difference what you say
I don't share your greed, the only card I need is
The Ace Of Spades
The Ace Of Spades

Playing for the high one, dicing with the devil,
Going with the flow, it's all a game to me,
Seven or Eleven, snake eyes watching you,
Double up or quit, double stake or split,
The Ace Of Spades
The Ace Of Spades

You know I'm born to lose, and gambling's for fools,
But that's the way I like it baby,
I don't wanna live for ever,
And don't forget the joker!

Pushing up the ante, I know you've got to see me,
Read 'em and weep, the dead man's hand again,
I see it in your eyes, take one look and die,
The only thing you see, you know it's gonna be,
The Ace Of Spades
The Ace Of Spades

► Motorhead

Chocolate Bunny goes to Guantanamo....

► YouTube Video

Now, here's the ther version with "less dark" music:

► YouTube Video

I was doing my usual thing of quickly "scrollwheel-clicking" away at various links of subtle interest, etc. to be looked at later in the collection of mounting browser tabs my clicking was creating.

By accident the Boing Boing headline/article below got nestled in with Onion YouTube "news" video tabs....

US customs bar fashionista druggie writer for "moral turpitude"

Later, after viewing tons of Onion fake news videos, I had forgotten that I had added that BB article to the tabs. When I finally got to its tab, it first came up and started loading just the title in the title-bar and I fully expected to see an Onion fake "news" video based on the ridiculous, hilarious title... but, then BB loaded up and it dawned on me... this shit is real...

Hmmm... maybe it's time to study areas of the World that still harbor the last vestiges of Democracy and move there? The U.S. seems to be getting pretty tapped out to the point of absurdity.

Why did Gawd let this happen?

Once last thing to chew on, hipsters.... in case you question my term "genocide" up there...

There's been a "surge" all right:

America's war has now killed well over twice as many Iraqi civilians in 5 years.... than what Saddam Hussein's regime killed in over 20 years time... total.

Now go out there and shop your ass off before any of this reality sets in.

#79 posted by UrinalPooper:

Cowicide, I've said it before and I'll say it again: All of the anti-war sentiment in this country couldn't get an anti-war candidate either of the major party nominations...

"All the anti-war sentiment" in this country? LOL Sentiment is shit. Americans should be taking to the streets all over this country by the millions on this 5th year anniversary of the Iraq war. But, instead we get this...

Via Associated Press Article:

... Laurie Wolberton of Louisville, Ky., whose son just finished an Army tour of duty in Iraq ...

"We're not paying attention anymore," she said. "My son has buried his friends. He's given eulogies, he's had to go through things no one should have to go through, and over here they've forgotten. They just go shopping instead."

On previous anniversaries, tens of thousands of people marched through major U.S. cities, and more than 100,000 gathered on several occasions leading up to the invasion.

Only a few hundred mustered for one of Wednesday's largest gatherings, in Washington ...

I guess all the chilly weather made it "too uncomfortable" for Americans to stand up to murder and genocide in their name. Well, at least the "sentiment" is there, huh?

Well then... the American people are going to get what we deserve. For one, a continued tax-exempt CoS (sorry, if you can't be bothered to protest blatant genocide in your name.... you aren't going to stop CoS evils either) and a worldwide backlash (which has already begun) for not "bothering" with enough widespread Iraq war protests to turn the heads of anyone... well, except maybe some of us who only turn our heads away in shame after the poor showings.

The backlash won't just be more terror from the extremists we've bred and the absolutely embarrassing civil rights we've lost at home (because that's how cows get treated at home when they are too fucking weak, chicken, bored, etc. to do anything about it).

It's the moderate general worldwide public we should truly fear... they've lost faith in us, folks (not just our govt. anymore). The repercussions of this are far more damaging in scope than some American cows can seem to imagine. In a world that trusts, respects and loves America, how hard would it be to hide a nutcase like Bin Laden from us? Seriously.... this guy is STILL free and sending Europe threatening communiqués??

Has it dawned on some of you that our reduced standing the world as a cowed, pathetic people who won't be "bothered" to control our government even in the face of blatant genocide (in our name) could be (oh, perhaps) hurting our economy on a critical, global scale as well? Could it be the people of the world are losing faith in just more than our name at this point? Our ideals? Our way of life? Our morals? Our currency literally AND figuratively?

American Anon's CoS "war" will FAIL to accomplish anything but a momentary PR problem for CoS that only reaches maybe .005% of Americans (if you're lucky). At the same time, I do admire the attempts to at least do "something" which is better than many udder Amerians can say.

But, meanwhile, the genocide.... the American Third World War (the war on the third world) rages on in our names.... All our American names individually anonymous, but collectively known as the weak, cowered American public that has lost nearly all control of its own government through fear, distraction, pacification and (once again) a severe lack of priorities. Internet tough guys... indeed...

There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke
But you and I, we've been through that
and this is not our fate
So let us not talk falsely now
The hour's getting late

Finally, to those Americans that ARE still fighting ( ► you know who you are)... you have my deepest admiration, loyalty and love. (I also post that link in waning hope that just one of you hipsters out there isn't "too cool" to at least take just one listen to just one of those soldiers in that video link and perhaps... just perhaps.... rethink your priorities and join the real fight of our lifetime)

I'm not saying to completely abandon the struggle against the CoS, but please... if you're not focusing that same amount of energy or more to stop the genocide going on in your name.... are you REALLY any better than the cowed followers of CoS??? Think about it.

Not sure Operation Three Trillion Dollar War is helping too much, either...
► Link to video, transcripts of video, audio, etc.

BTW, this isn't some wackos... it's Nobel laureate and former chief World Bank economist, Joseph Stiglitz, and Linda Bilmes (Professor of public finance at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government).

While we are at it:

Robert Kuttner on the “Most Serious Financial Crisis Since the Great Depression"
► Link to video, transcripts of video, audio, etc.

How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (And Stick You with the Bill)”
► Link to video, transcripts of video, audio, etc.

Subprime Mortgage Crisis Causing African Americans to Experience Greatest Loss of Wealth in Modern U.S. History.
► Link to video, transcripts of video, audio, etc.

Yah, yep... I smell trouble... yep, I smell it.
Been smellin' it for quite a while, but it's getting stinkier and stinkier. Haven't even passed the dead skunk on the highway yet...

Aside from the dollar collapse...

That background music in the beginning (and continued in other parts) is swiped from The Bounty - one of the only Mel Gibson movies I really, really love with a kick ass performance from Anthony Hopkins, Liam Neeson and it was made in 1984!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bounty

I think the same guy that did the soundtrack for The Bounty also did the music for Bladerunner too.

excellent.